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Tuesday, October 22, 2013

CHARISMATIC HERETICS OF STRANGE FIRE?

Charismatic Heretics of Strange Fire?
By Fidel "Butch" Montoya
In an awkward three day conference, promoted as “Strange Fire,” sponsored by John MacArthur, pastor of Grace Community Church in Southern California,  MacArthur scornfully condemned the Charismatic movement as false theology and strange fire which constitutes in his mind the “most serious crime of false worship.” 

MacArthur attempted to make his case by referring to Leviticus 10, where the sons of Aaron offered a sacrifice of strange fire, and because of their false teachings, “Fire blazed out from God and consumed them.”

MacArthur and several other speakers, including Joni Eareckson Tada, best known as a quadriplegic for over forty-five years, who ministers to the disabled, but unfortunately by her presence as a main speaker, bound herself to MacArthur’s vicious and unchristian-like attack on 500 million Charismatics. 

During the "Strange Fire" conference, MacArthur called the Charismatic message, “lies, who offer up a “dangerous, corrupt, and false worship, dishonoring the Holy Spirit.” 

MacArthur claims the Charismatic movement “has brought nothing to sound doctrine, but distortion, confusion, error, carnal emotionalism” which caters to man’s sinful nature. 

Many of God's people know throughout his years of ministry, MacArthur has condemned the Charismatic movement, but during his three day conference, he lost his ability to discern the validity of the Charismatic movement, and his selfish empowerment by other preachers at the conference, and from the pulpit, MacArthur failed to exhibit Christ-like and graceful behavior. 

MacArthur made scurrilous, insulting, and defamatory statements from the pulpit, even claiming that if the Charismatic movement has been successful, the Kingdom of Darkness was responsible.  

 MacArthur’s behavior reminded me of the advice Paul gave to Timothy regarding the old Egyptian frauds Jannes and Jambres who challenged Moses. 

They were rejects from the faith, twisted in their thinking, defying truth itself. But nothing will come of these latest imposters. Everyone will see through them, just as people saw through that Egyptian hoax.” 2 Timothy 8-9 The Message.

I have attached The Christian Post article and a link to the video where MacArthur “preaches” his reprehensible sermon on how Charismatics have insulted and defied the Holy Spirit with a false and strange fire.

 Alex Murashko, writer of the article was much too nice to refer to the outrageous charges made from the pulpit as “MacArthur’s thrown punches during the three day conference.”  There is no question that MacArthur crossed the line in his shameful attempt to discredit the Charismatic movement.

Rev. Samuel Rodriguez, the President of the influential National Hispanic Christian Leadership Conference, was quick to call out MacArthur for his disgraceful bid to destroy faith in one of the most spiritually powerful Christian movements in the world.

In a statement emailed to The Christian Post, Rodriguez stated; 

“Correspondingly, with great due deference of course, he must be made aware that the optics of the criticism also imply a cultural naiveté." The epicenter of the world's Pentecostal and Charismatic demographic stems not from North America but from the continents south of the equator.

"In essence, he is condemning the very Christian narrative responsible for shining the light of Christ to God's children in Africa, South America, the Caribbean and elsewhere. As a result, this movement is one of the few non-white led and arguably the most ethnically diverse Christian movements in the globe today."

Rodriguez is to be commended for reprimanding MacArthur and his three day Strange Fire conference. Knowing that Rodriguez is not only a national leader on comprehensive immigration reform, but as a man recognized for his courage to defend the Gospel, and who understands Christ’s instructions given to the 120, to tarry and wait for the Holy Fire that would descend on those in the Aposento Alto – the Upper Room.

Christ instructed his disciples “To go out and train everyone you meet, far and near, in this way of life, marking them by baptism in the three-fold name, Father, Son, and Holy Spirit”. Matthew 28:19.  He assured them a Helper, the Holy Spirit would come to direct their paths. It is because of that promise, we know the Holy Spirit has empowered our message that Jesus Saves!

I cannot express in words how excruciating and piercing his embellishment of his false teaching on the Holy Spirit was for me to hear. Yet, I must encourage you to read the following article and follow the link and watch MacArthur “preach from the pulpit” and engage in such a hateful attack on the ministry of the Holy Spirit.

MacArthur claims in The Christian Post article, "The true people of God have always had to battle the false prophets and the liars. It is a strange irony to me, in the Charismatic movement, that if you criticize them, if you endeavor to be vigilant and discerning, and if you endeavor to contend for the truth and hold them to Scripture and expose their error, they will condemn you as the sinner … How do I know that? I have lived that."

Pastor John MacArthur, I will not condemn or judge your soul. God reserves that right for Himself. "Christ himself is the Judge, with the final say on everyone, living or dead." 2 Timothy 4: 1.

The Apostle Paul knew his time was near, so in his letter to Timothy, his words were essentially "dying words". These are the words of our beloved who utter advice and counsel to us before they die; are words of lasting care and love for us. Words that we always hang on to as final advice from a loved one.

Likewise, Paul wrote to Timothy, "You're going to find that will be times when people will have no stomach for solid teaching. They'll fill up on spiritual junk food, catchy opinions that tickle their fancy. They'll turn their backs on truth and chase mirages. BUT you, keep your eye on what you're doing, accept the hard times along with the good; keep the Message alive; do a thorough job as God's servant. 2 Timothy 4: 3-5. The Message.

I will agree with Rev. Samuel Rodriguez when he said, "In a world full of relativism, decadence, strife and apathy, John MacArthur should focus on preaching the Word: Christ crucified, resurrected and coming back again."

Fidel “Butch” Montoya
H. S. Power & Light Ministries
Latino Faith Initiative


John MacArthur Continues Case Against Charismatic Movement at 'Strange Fire'; Backlash Includes Stern Words by Samuel Rodriguez
BY ALEX MURASHKO , CHRISTIAN POST REPORTER
October 18, 2013|5:59 am

Pastor John MacArthur continued to lay out his case against the Charismatic movement on Thursday, the second day of the Strange Fire conference hosted at his California church. However, a backlash of criticism, in full swing since the beginning of the event, included a stern statement from the Rev. Samuel Rodriguez, a Pentecostal minister and president of the National Hispanic Christian Leadership Conference.

'Strange Fire' Conference: John MacArthur Calls Out Charismatic Movement as 'Unfaithful'

MacArthur's punches thrown during the three-day conference included calling out mainline, Pentecostal-influenced pastors such as T.D. Jakes and Joel Osteen, and congregations that he says focus on "spirit-filled" services rather than Christ-centered doctrine.

"If the Charismatic movement was being produced by the Holy Spirit, the glory of Christ would prevail everywhere," said MacArthur during the morning session Thursday. "It would be Christ dominated and everyone in the movement would be bowing the knee to the true Christ in belief of the true Gospel."

He continued, "The people would be humble. They would be joyful. They would be sacrificial. They would be confessional. They would be declaring Jesus as Lord and themselves His slaves. They would be denying themselves, taking up their cross and following Him wherever He led."

MacArthur called the Charismatic movement a "long war on truth."

"The true people of God have always had to battle the false prophets and the liars," he said. "What makes them effective is the deceptiveness of it. It is a strange irony to me, in the Charismatic movement, that if you criticize them, if you endeavor to be vigilant and discerning, and if you endeavor to contend for the truth and hold them to Scripture and expose their error, they will condemn you as the sinner … How do I know that? I have lived that."

Rodriguez, who is considered the leading spokesperson for the Hispanic evangelical community, much of which is a part of or has a background in the Pentecostal/Charismatic movement, said in a statement sent to The Christian Post via email that MacArthur misses the mark by a wide margin. Rodriguez has been an Assemblies of God ordained minister since the age of 23. His bio includes the statement that in 2010, he was called to start a multi-ethnic, Christ-centered, spirit-filled, Bible-based church in Sacramento, Calif.

"John MacArthur suffers from spiritual, cultural and theological myopia," stated Rodriguez to CP. "With great due deference to a Christian leader many of us admire, his conclusions regarding the largest and fastest growing of global Christendom, the Pentecostal/Charismatic movement, speaks to a man ignorant of the community's unbridled commitment to biblical orthodoxy.

"Unfortunately, this blessed Christian leader cannot differentiate between substance and style, or engaging a biblical metaphor, between Christianity's 'wine' and the varied 'wineskins.' In other words, Mr. MacArthur should be focusing on the fact that while many in the church continue to abandon our Christian faith, the Pentecostal/Charismatic community continues to offer the church a legitimate growth mechanism."

Rodriguez went on to imply that MacArthur's arguments lack an understanding of the movement's Christian influence around the world.

"Correspondingly, with great due deference of course, he must be made aware that the optics of the criticism also imply a cultural naiveté," Rodriguez states. "The epicenter of the world's Pentecostal and Charismatic demographic stems not from North America but from the continents south of the equator.

"In essence, he is condemning the very Christian narrative responsible for shining the light of Christ to God's children in Africa, South America, the Caribbean and elsewhere. As a result, this movement is one of the few non-white led and arguably the most ethnically diverse Christian movements in the globe today."

Rodriguez concludes by stating he encourages "this gracious preacher to preach the Word."

"In a world full of relativism, decadence, strife and apathy, John MacArthur should focus on preaching the Word: Christ crucified, resurrected and coming back again," he recommended.

MacArthur has long been an outspoken advocate of weighing the claims and activities of those in the Charismatic movement against Scripture. The conference is tied to next month's release of his book, Strange Fire: The Danger of Offending the Holy Spirit With Counterfeit Worship.


The following video link is John MacArthur scornfully criticizing the Charismatic movement as a false worship to the Lord, as a Golden Calf which we know was a false worship representation of the Lord.  MacArthur uses as his Biblical basis Leviticus 10 when the sons of Aaron in their sacrifice to the Lord, offered a strange fire. The video segment is 1 ½ hour long, but by listening one will discern his anti-Biblical bias toward the Charismatic movement.


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